A Post-Election Experience

I went to an election party on Tuesday night in Manhattan. Everyone there was an Obama supporter so I brought Dr youtube videos direkt auf ipad downloaden. John along for the experience. “Liberal chicks are easy,” he once told me herunterladen. And since he recently bought me dinner I figured I should give him a chance to embarrass himself during a truly historic moment for the United States and the world videos tumblren.
Shortly after the results became official I left the party on my own because John was chatting up a bohemian woman. “I don’t know if life really begins at conception but I’m more than willing to find out with you.” I sometimes choke on my own vomit when he speaks libreoffice deutsch herunterladen.
I took the subway home. There were a lot of people in the streets celebrating (if I remember correctly New York voted something around 72% in favor of Obama) but the subway was basically empty download idapp 2. I was in the rear car along with one woman and two men in the early 20’s. The men knew each other and didn’t look very happy.
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“They elected a Muslim.”
I recently read that 1/3rd of Americans thought Obama was Muslim. Ignorance of that magnitude can be a guilty pleasure to watch, but the reality is it’s incredibly sad games faster.
“A Nigger Muslim no less.”


“It’s disgusting,” said the second man. “Whoever supports that fucking terrorist should be stabbed.”
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They started looking around the subway car and caught my eye and the woman’s, both of us clearly taken back a bit by their language. I’m not naïve to how people think but it’s not often I hear such disdain with strangers present android 9 herunterladen.
The men might have been drunk, or perhaps just racist assholes. Probably both. One thing that was certain was they were both pretty large men who didn’t seem to have a problem speaking their minds smart notebook gratisen. Loudly.
“Hey you! Who did you vote for?” he asked the woman who happened to be white.
“I’m not an American,” she said. “I’m from Europe.”
“Oh. It’s too bad you’re not a part of this great country,” one of them said.
Right. It’s great because of dicks like you two.
And then it occurred to me that the men would probably ask me for which candidate I voted. That wouldn’t be good. Bigots aren’t the most open-minded individuals. Fortunately the subway came to their stop and the two men got off, grumbling about how McCain would have lynched the blacks and all the other terrorists in this country.
A woman at the party had told me that if people can admit to voting against someone for racist reasons then that would be progress in her eyes. “If people will come out and say it, then it’s there, in the open, and we can address it more directly.” I suppose the two men fit into this concept but I wasn’t about to ‘address it more directly’ with them. I can’t risk have my brains beaten in. My clients wouldn’t appreciate that.
The news reported on Tuesday night that 61% of Obama supporters are white. It’s an impressive figure and shows that we’ve come a long way over the years. During his victory speech Obama said, “…we are not enemies, but friends.” But after my brief encounter with the Hitler-esque youth, I think we still have a lot of work to do on that score.

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23 Responses to “A Post-Election Experience”

  1. Amber says:

    I was really saddened by this post. I’m sorry that so quickly after the election you’d had such a negative experience. Being way up here in Canada I missed the celebration with my family and friends but I’m excited for what this means for everyone back home as most of my friends and family up here are. Worried for Obama, of course, but excited for every barrier he’s broken. I hate that there are still close minded assholes out there.

  2. T.J. says:

    “A nigger Muslim, no less.”
    Sounds like somebody’s got it backwards.

  3. goats says:

    Technically, it is my understanding that his father was muslim, but not practicing. He was baptized as an adult, after not being raised very religious. He is NOT Muslim, but I can see why stupid racists would be confused, being his middle name is “hussein.” I was confused about his religion as well prior to the election, but I actually took the time to research it long before Tuesday. Not that it would have been a factor for me, but I was curious. What I am wondering is whether a Jewish person would be viewed as being better or worse by these people? I’ve always wondered the hierarchy of hatred with people whom you encountered…I am just shocked they live here in NY.

  4. Anonymous says:

    Wanted to clarify. You noted you heard 61% of Obama supporters were white. Your stat is technically accurate but without clarification your readers will assume most whites, 61%, voted for Obama.
    Most whites, 55%, voted for McCain. Only 43% voted for Obama. It is simply that whites make up 74% of all votes that is makes the Obama stat look better than it really is.
    http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2008/results/polls/#USP00p1

  5. Marcus says:

    There is a small percentage of idiots on both sides of the aisle (e.g. these morons and anyone who compared Bush to Hitler or believes the 9-11 conspiracies). However, I think most Americans who didn’t vote for Obama, myself included, are willing to give him a chance and will judge his presidency by merit.

  6. Taephit says:

    You could have pointed out their grammatical error “Muslim nigger, not nigger muslim” and then everyone on the train would have a good laugh, hug and then break into a coreographed dance number!

  7. Anonymous says:

    That is sad to hear people talk that way. I did not vote for obama or McCain. My personal opinion is that it didnt matter who got elected, our country would be screwed either way. But I am atleast willing to give whoever got elected a chance and believe that they are going to do the best they can do in their situations. But my opinion is that George Lopez needs to be president

  8. Hey Dr. Rob!
    I didn’t vote for Barack. As a black man, I’ve heard that’s a sin. However, his race didn’t figure into my vote. It’s sad that people still think like that. I just hope President-elect Obama will be able to unify the country better than his predecessor was able to do. I also wonder if America has the courage to look beyond the skin color of the man, and look at the content of his character. If Obama’s electoral results are any indication, we may be on the right path.
    I’m also assuming there weren’t any young men of color on that particular train car.

  9. Wayland says:

    The poor guys are just misinformed. Pity and love them.

  10. Maggy says:

    I probably would have gotten right in their faces. And I would not have said nice things.

  11. Daryl says:

    I was kinda hoping you would have more to say about people using anger as a way of dealing with disappointment about their candidate not winning, or something to that effect. Something a little more psychological. Or maybe something about how invested we get in a choice, once we have made it.
    This post was more divisive than it was illuminating I think. It highlights the ‘us vs them’ theme that has dominated social discourse as this election had been winding down.
    These ignorant people deserve our pity, not our hate. I would think of all people, you would be able to identify the anger that these type of people are harboring, and understand the destructive nature it is probably having on them.
    I live in TX, and so I’ve heard a lot of this type of hateful speech before. It’s not an easy state to be an Obama supporter in sometimes. It’s a sad thing really. How can these people ever be friends with someone with brown skin?

  12. Joe says:

    I would like to point out that most people in this country vote on one or two issues and always for the same party, no matter how objectionable or unqualified their candidate. Using stats like “55% of white voters voted for McCain” or whatever to indicate racism still exists is nonsense. Obama won the popular vote by a 4% margin, which was larger than the margin in 2000 or 2004, which in a two party system, has far more meaning than whether a majority of whites voted for Obama.
    Also, the placement of electoral votes for Obama, from areas previously thought by Democrats to be unreachable, says that if racism still has a strong hold there, at least people are willing to set it aside when they believe their interests are that much better served by the black guy.
    Just my opinion, but this election disproves both the Silent Majority theory that Republicans have been banking on since ’68 and the liberal theory that racism is so entrenched in the white mind (read: all the white minds), that a black man could never get elected.

  13. Savi says:

    The fact that this happened in New York City in 2008 and in open public is obviously disturbing. I would expect this in Texas or the Southern states where white-supremacist groups are still around with large numbers (as Daryl had alluded to). It also shows that it will take many generations for people to see others’ character, and not their skin color.
    Rob, I also have a question for you about Dr. John. You’ve made it clear through your posts that the guy is a tool. Do you ever feel that being around someone of such low dignity and integrity brings you down? Psychologists often preach about how people should surround themselves with positive, healthy people, and not toxic ones.

  14. Esther says:

    Not everyone who voted for someone other than Obama voted for racial reasons. Or because they think he is a Muslim. Those two guys on the subway are not the majority (at least not in my experience). I voted — neither for Obama nor McCain — due to my own political ideology which does espouse that all humans are created equal. I am certain there are others like me.

  15. Anonymous says:

    Not everyone who voted for someone other that Obama voted for racial reasons…
    I’m quite sure that not everyone who voted FOR Obama did it for non-racial reasons.
    I just hope that all the idiots who voted for him because he is black and all the idiots voted against him because he is black washed each other out.

  16. Alice says:

    Congratulations, America! Welcome to the rest of the world.
    Hope he survives long enough to get inaugerated…

  17. cheerio says:

    What really bothered me was all of the video clips of black people jumping around celebrating like it was a freaking Jay-Z concert. Race should NOT be an issue when voting for our president! It is 2008, we should be way past this! Fact is, Obama got a lot of votes simply because he is black, which is racist in itself. I chose not to vote for him because I don’t agree with his policies, but I couldn’t stand voting for McCain either. Either way, keep up the good work Dr. Rob.

  18. Jazminder says:

    I don’t think that race OR religion should mention in a secular government where everyone is supposedly equal. All that should matter is whether or not you can agree with the candidate’s policies.
    Also I currently live in a country where racism is very open and I don’t think I would really call that progress.

  19. Terry.Liverpool says:

    It will be interesting if the following things occur in light of the election:
    1) Now that there’s a black president, will black people and black communities finally start taking responsibility for their own lives and own actions or will they continue to blame all their problems on the racist white man?
    2) Will Americans realise that America is not the only country on the planet and start reversing their stars and stripes brainwashing to see things within the context of a global economy and a world wide network?
    3) Will people like the two guys on the train be socially shunned? (As would happen in any sane society) Or will they continue to assume that their opinions are rational and appropriate (as rational as thinking “he’s gonna take our guns away” is a good reason not to vote for someone)?

  20. Katherine says:

    Dr. Rob,
    I was shocked many times at discovering how much racism is still an issue during the presidential campaigns this year. I went to check out the last McCain rally the night before the election, just to see what the Republican energy was like… and maybe to protest a wee bit.
    It was really sad to see grown adults acting so meanly to each other, McCain supporters and the protesters alike. Obviously there is some sort of group-think phenomena that makes people think they can do whatever they want if they have an us vs. them mentality.
    Have you had any clients that expressed racist ideas like the men you encountered? How would you have treated them if they had come to you for therapy? Why are people like this?! C’mon, Dr. Rob, we want to hear you’re psychological interpretation of what happened 🙂
    Dr. Rob Note: Check out this piece on the psychology of hate for a way better take than I could give:
    http://www.psychologytoday.com/articles/index.php?term=pto-20030501-000001&page=1%20.
    I will post at some point on my personal experience with this.

  21. sup says:

    43% of whites voted for obama, that was more than gore and kerry got in the last 2 elections.

  22. Sid says:

    I’m intensely racist by the popular definition, and I voted Obama. Mr. Obama would be an exceptional individual if he were from ANY racial background, and was simply the best candidate for the job, by an immense margin, out of all the contenders from the primary season back. A lot of my friends felt the same way — just because we have unfashionable social ideas doesn’t mean we’d want another 4 years of Bush, or worse, a President Palin.

  23. Kvisling says:

    Everyone who didn’t vote for Jack Grimes should be publically disemboweled alive!!